Luther Burbank :- “We must learn that any person, who will not accept what he knows to be truth, for the very love of truth alone, is very definitely undermining his mental integrity.”

The cockroaches will inherit the Earth.

I have spent nearly two years sorting through the dust-trail of the litigation pushers on the global warming thing. I used to argue, but types like monbiot and the guy who edits (up to 600 times a day) the environmental pages of wikipedia (william conolley) are corrupt. Utterly. They avoid debate because whenever it has occurred they lose. This site:

wattsupwiththat.com

is overflowing with bright minds who once were convinced the globe was warming so must be forgiven for the vehemence and anger they sometimes display as a result of feeling conned, and this page:

wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/16/consensus-climate-science-what-would-thomas-huxley-say/

cuts to the divide between the actual science and the religious foot stamping of the cap and trade/carbon credit industry (that, by the way, will “handle” – in just two years at full flow – the same amount of cash that the entire oil industry has worked for, actuall work because they have had to produce an actual commodity not just paperwork,  since the second world war) that holds the media and public in thrall. People acted stunned when 1 oil co produced “profits” of 10 billion. Imagine how stunned they may become when trillions is “traded” annually. For what? So that the biggest polluters can “buy” their way out of trouble.

I would just ignore it all like so many do if it were not for the fact that these liars and charlatans are pushing for green this and that but current technology is not yet fit. Their subsidising of wind farms, biofool and solar (to name the three big ones) and forcing production at the expense of continued development will undo many years of hard won ground when the public (and shareholders) find out that it is all about 20 years too early to be (anywhere near) efficient. I know we have to start somewhere but they are ruining the entire movement by creating a bubble out of it. When it pops it will set everything back by decades as well as exposing the science industry as the money grabbing advocacy machine that it has become. They have been given over $50billion to “settle” the “science” of global warming and all they do is ask for more, more or less. More time and more funding. Less discussion, no dissent and zero debate. Nice.

Anyway, it’s been a while since I bothered railing against it because big brother sees cap and trade as a revenue source – even though China and India will (must) keep building coal-fired power plants and have zero intention of joining any “alliance” that the (continuously partying in tropical paradises) UN IPCC one world government machine get the west to sign on to. Their scientists (China, India, Pakistan, etc) have reported to their respective governments and told them “CO2 is good for plants, doesn’t cause “dangerous” warming and can never reach noxious levels even if everything that can burn is burned”. It is an inconvenient truth that geologists are in the best position to see the big picture as they train in chemistry, physics, engineering and earth sciences, but most of the good (best at their job) have been employed by oil companies at some time so are targeted only in that area.

Meanwhile the really noxious shit is getting buried, figuratively and literally, as the media and the green environmentalists concentrate on that vital part of the carbon cycle without which we would all perish, that exists in trace quantities (some say dangerously low) of less than 400 parts per million (when atomic powered nuclear missile toting submarines are permitted to run for months at between 4000 and 11,000 parts per million – because those levels are safe for animals and do not alter human decision making capability) and can never exist in sufficient quantities to alter the PH of the worlds oceans, if that were indeed possible due to “buffering” -
CO2 – innocent as charged, has existed at 10 times today’s level for geological periods of time while temperatures were both much higher and much lower than today, entirely swamped by water vapour as a greenhouse “forcing” and vital to a cooling world (despite what the media and all the tentacles of big brother state we have not “warmed” while the computer models have claimed we have) with an increasing population (that even if it doubled could be fed from the untouched Russian steppes alone).

Despite my anger at the likes of WWF and Greedpiece continuously avoiding real, and curable, trouble such as starvation and thirst while pushing this “CO2 is warming the globe” heap of shite uphill I am very positive in my outlook compared to 20 years ago. Why, I even find myself agreeing with a Tory!

If you need a document that encapsulates the lies, distortion and manipulation of science in duty to false ends this is it-

scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/markey_and_barton_letter.pdf

Delivered to both houses and all senators individually but destined to be ignored as they all have their snouts in the trough. I advise everyone to read it at least once.

The poor will hurt most, as usual. The rich will stay rich, as usual.

But. Cold is coming. People will look back and shake their heads that we once thought that the tiny, tiny “warming” we have “suffered” at the end of the last century was in any way shape or form bad/catastrophic/dangerous. Cold brings the four horsemen. Warmth brings more, and bigger, plants, less death, longer lives, more drinking water(rainfall) and less desert, greater crop growing areas and more leisure time to teach our children and to discover solutions to real problems just like we always do.

All the (entirely) natural oceanic cycles have turned to their cold phases. The sun has produced less sunspots during this transition between cycles than at any time since the “Dalton Minimum” when ice fairs were held on the Thames and plague, pestilence, drought and the accompanying hunger, war and exodus were the “norm”.

Luckily, we have over 200 years of easily available coal (yep – even if another China came on stream) and oil (yep – “we only ever find oil where we look for it” the political implications of that are clear – we can’t allow the natives to make money old chap so we just don’t look for it where we can’t control it) Check out how everyone is “claiming” their continental shelf rights – although it is difficult to research – the UK just claimed a massive area around the Falklands – surprise, surprise.

As I have said before, if we don’t find cheap clean sources of energy by then we deserve to die off.

PR: wait… I: wait… L: wait… LD: wait… I: wait… wait… Rank: wait… Traffic: wait… Price: wait… C: wait…

Ha, ha.

Albert Einstein :- “Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.”

Today there is a protest, lead by government employee James Hansen, in Washington DC. He claims that coal-fired power is akin to an atrocity perpetrated in the 1940’s and that the trains that deliver that coal are “death trains”.

Never was there a more obvious move to demolish civilization. 50% of our electricity comes from coal. The man, and his following, is bad for business, possibly unhinged and definately outside his remit.

Luckily, Hilariously, the “weather” today in DC is “snow with biting wind and low temperatures” and this protest will be seen as the insane, hateful idiocy that it most surely is.

Take a look. Have a laugh. But, then, get back to doing your bit to ensure that this madness dies as soon as possible and the perpetrators are denied access to funding, politics and the media for the rest of their squalidly revisionist lifetimes.

www.earthcam.com/usa/dc/metrosquare/

John von Neumann :- “If you allow me four free parameters I can build a mathematical model that describes exactly everything that an elephant can do. If you allow me a fifth free parameter, the model I build will forecast that the elephant will fly.”

One day some of us will look back and chuckle. The ancients are already rolling around close to wetting themselves. Open minds are needed when modern science has difficulties explaining climatic events on a daily, millennial and everything in between scale. You need to be brave to make the leap.

Here is the news. Japanese scientists protest that the IPCC practices Astrology and has climate science completely ass backwards.

Here is the Astrology. There are hot, cold, wet and dry planets. Their syzygies and oppositions stroke and stoke their effects upon our weather/climate. People died if the seers misread the possibilities, and if they misread too often they died at the hands of the hungry who had previously trusted.  You needed to be brave to take that job.

Here is the science (as much as I can give away). The planets – all of them – have an electrical/mechanical/gravitic relationship with Sol. Their vectors, inclination to the plane of the elliptic and their orbital speeds, whereby they catch up with and overtake one-another – or not – influence old Sol <em>and</em>, in turn, themselves. The ultimate feedback.

Just because someone, some when, did a study and found cyclicity wanting does not mean that it is. All it means is that the investigation was not thorough, for whatever reasons, and its conclusions may be utterly and totally wrong.

The distaste that modern scientists display toward old science, for that is what Astrology is, does not surprise me. What does surprise is the easy brush-off that some eminent scholars, both modern and olden,  receive at the hands of those who display no bravery.

Who will be next to join the illustrious ranks of Aristotle, Theophrastus, Ptolemy, Brahe, Kepler, Newton, Howard, Saxby, Herschel, Jose, Milankovitch, Fairbridge, Nelson, Bohr, King-Hele, etcetera.

Here is a page of interest:

www.crawfordperspectives.com/Fairbridge-ClimateandKeplerianPlanetaryDynamics.htm

George Orwell :- “We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.”

The nozzle of anthropogenic global warming, climate change, ACC (etc, etc, ad nauseum) funding has been spraying billions of dollars around for a couple of decades now and we still await some modern science that shows unequivically, preferably, that mankind’s CO2 “emissions” could, are, have or will significantly impact global climate or weather patterns.

I put it to you, members of the jury, that the “scientists” involved in the most massive, costly and fraudulent scam in human history know full well that CO2 is a good guy but finding him to be the enemy is lucrative, career enhancing and politically empowering.

Take James Hansen for example. Cheat; “Turn off the AC and open the windows before I give this speech to simpleton Al Gore and congress would you.” Story teller; “I am 99% certain that…blather, blather.” Activist; “I flew here today to state that vandalism is our obligation when dealing with coal fired power stations.”

He knows there is no hurry. He knows that he will be retired before the truth about CO2 comes out. He knows that his crap has been all about money, power and the little green monsters’ agenda.

How may we prove they don’t have our best interests at heart. Dangerous AGW as a result of our CO2 output is bullshit and those who espouse cap and trade, carbon credits, the premature greening of industry and forcing taxation to mitigate an unreal problem are either ignorant of the facts or wilfully misleading us.

This will lead to people believeing that ALL the policies, decisions and judgements of said politicians are false, lies and propaganda produced solely to further an ideal that they would rather we didn’t see, let alone question.

It has gone beyond the obvious lie that CO2 is bad for anyone or any living thing. It has gone beyond the fairy tales created to ensure the funding teat pumps out the milk and honey of someone else’s hard work into the pockets of proven liers, shams, fraudsters, snake-oil salesmen and ex-lawyers , ex-politicians and ex-humans.

Climate science, such as it it, has proven the idiocy of the masses and the elitist superiority complexes of the scum who rule us from the top of the barrel and will soon become the petard with which we may hoist those same leeches is justice of the divine kind.

For every cockroach there are a dozen diamonds in the rough such as Bob Carter. How do we know this? Because the slimeballs like joe romm act like wounded and dangerous animals and screech exceeding loud if someone disturbs their nightmares or steps foot in their nasty, foul smelling pits of religeous zealotry and obvious, wilful denial. In fact the word “denialists”, wielded so freely by those screeching morons who “believe” CO2 is “not good”, should be used solely for the fools who are driving us down the road to poverty and joe romm is a denialist par excellence. He has a devoted following of equally blind sheeple who orgasm at his every exxageration and the putrid filth that drips like venom from his feotid excuse for brain function. These people call for death squads to visit anyone who disagrees that the end of the world will happen because of CO2 inside the next century. Moron is too polite a word to describe these revisionist, lying, fake, backward, ill and broken remnants. Have they not noticed how cold it has become? Worldwide? Oh, but that is weather you denialist you.

So what happened here?

woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:1935/to:1979/trend

A fortyfive (45) year downward trend in world temperatures (you may use any of the global datasets available) as CO2 levels climbed by at least the same degree as they do today today.

They know. Don’t let go of that fact. Same with the language – it is Global Warming, NOT Climate Change that we are being clubbed with. This can be our strength when disproving their lies and tactics.

Thankfully someone with enough staff to do the job, the sanity to see the need and the desire to see it through has just produced a new U.S. Senate Minority Report;

More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims. Scientists Continue to Debunk “Consensus” in 2008

Wrap up well people. This is going to be a cold winter in the Northern Hemisphere and next year isn’t going to be much better. The oceans rule World Climate, not CO2.

 Richard S Lindzen :- “In brief, we have the new paradigm where simulation and programs have replaced theory and observation, where government largely determines the nature of scientific activity, and where the primary role of professional societies is the lobbying of the government for special advantage.”

A lot of people face a stark choice this winter. Stay warm, or eat? It would be simplistic to say that bad choices by government regarding the mitigation of CO2 emissions is the main reason, but so would blaming the credit crunch. The economic crisis, coupled with the inconvenient cold, is causing the warmista to shriek more loudly that their dissonance must be calmed. We must not, according to them, take our eye off the climate crisis. Well, here is the news:

There were several football matches postponed on Tue 28th Oct – and not just northern (UK) ones either – and we hardly ever abandon matches that have started and it is outside the “normal” time frame to do so for frost, sleet or snow. Meanwhile the blinkered UK government were spending 6 hours destroying the future economy of that once great nation by voting to pass a bill that will “limit” emissions by 80% by sometime after they have all retired. Yeah right.

A Google search for “cold weather records” produces some gems most of the time but recently we see cold records being beaten every day and snowfall extent and depth records are also increasing, and it is still not yet November.

The energy companies believed, along with most of the western world, that warm weather was going to remain the “norm” and they had better cover their margins by increasing prices before falling, or flattening, demand crushed their profits. In the face of what seems, already, to be a severe winter on the way they may have to face windfall taxes before Christmas. I think the energy companies could be the canary in the coalmine for others to rethink the way CO2 is being presented as a “dangerous pollutant” by one pretender to the ultimate crown.

Thankfully “Joe (the plumber) Average” knows a tax scam when he sees one. Recent polls, albeit asking the usual loaded questions, have revealed that roughly 18% of those questioned “believed” in man made global warming. The same respondent faces higher food bills at the supermarket, bigger heating bills and higher pump prices for most fuels as a direct result of this collective insanity that claims the gas that gives us all of the above is killing us, going to kill us or going to kill our children.

I cannot sufficiently express my contempt for the politicians who refuse to investigate the properties of CO2, the public for not standing up to be counted, but mostly, the scientists who nuzzle the teat of funding and gorge at the public trough. It gets wearying to ask the same questions of those who supposedly know. Where is the evidence that CO2 causes any kind of imbalance in the world’s energy flux? Where is the science stating that CO2 residence time is anything other than <10 years? Where is the science stating that a “runaway” effect will take place because of the above?

Here is some that shows how much of the research that would answer the above questions has been suppressed. The whole site is informative but I offer just this one paper – folk.uio.no/tomvs/esef/ESEF3VO2.pdf – for your perusal today.

As a species we are being asked to spend trillions of dollars to prevent an unproven future disaster yet we are apparently unwilling to part with a few millions to address the questions whose answers could prevent egregious economic breakdown, allow us to concentrate on the real pollutants and dissuade me that a power, and tax, grab is under way.

Instead, as a result of inaction and data manipulation I, for one, see that there is zero problem from our CO2 emissons that are allowing our modern world to exist, keeping us warm and feeding us and that anyone who joins the crusade to demonize the life giving gas is destitute of morals, science and the hope that mankind, as it has every time it has faced a problem, will triumph over the political darkness that claims CO2 is bad, m’kay.

It is almost as if there is a concerted effort to create and perpetuate a “big lie” around the most vital component of life we know as CO2. Every politician and most of the authority societies and unions are competing with one another to bolster this lie. It beggars belief. People will die but the perpetrators will get golden handshakes, golden parachutes and lecture circuit riches in retirement. Excuse me while I puke.

News Release – Please report and pass on – Thank You
BBC2 ‘Climate Wars’ is FRAUD WITH LIPSTICK SAYS SCIENTIST – BBC
ATTACKED FOR LACK OF INTEGRITY AND CHALLENGED TO DEBATE
Initial response to BBC2 ‘Climate Wars’ 14th Sept 2008
from Piers Corbyn, astrophysicist of WeatherAction long range forecasters.
+44(0)7958713320 / +44(0)2079399946 , piers@weatheraction.com

1. This ‘Climate wars’ production is a shameful and desperate effort
from the BBC’s ‘green religion
department’ to shore up the failing theory of CO2 driven Global
Warming and Climate Change.
The piece, and the Global Warmers camp in general, while pretending to
be objective skilfully avoid applying sound science and provide no
answers to the mounting  evidence which refutes the crumbling Global
Warmers theory. It puts lipstick on scientific fraud but it remains
fraud.
=> They selectively report part of ‘weak’ sceptics contributions which
are muddled and AVOID proper interviews with scientists who can
soundly refute every wriggle of the Global Warmers mantra.
=> They  misrepresents the observed facts and choose ’straw-man’
methods to attack inadequate non-CO2 part-theory as if somehow trying
to argue that if an animal is not a cat then it must be a dog.
=> They resort to the green zealots blogging method of personal
innuendo rather than discussing  the issues – ‘Smear or belittle the
messenger if you don’t like the message’

2. The Hockey stick temperature graph (claiming ‘exceptional’ world
temperatures now compared with the last few thousand years) is a fraud
and ‘improvements’ on it promoted by the IPCC and members of the
Climate Crisis industry are also fraud  - with lipstick.
For the facts see Climate Audit and Christopher Monkton:
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/monckton/monckton_what_hockey_stick.pdf
For the record I concur fully with Christopher Monckton’s piece here
referenced including his conclusions.

3. Whatever may have seemed plausible 10 years ago Global Warming is
over and there is no evidence that CO2 ever was, is or will be a
driver of world temperatures or Climate Change – indeed the evidence
is the relationship is more the other way around:-
a) Temperatures drive CO2 levels in a number of circumstances (eg when
the world exits ice-ages). CO2 has no observed net driving effect on
temperatures. This fact is established from thousands of years of data
which the ‘Global Warmers’ refuse to properly consider.
b) World temperatures have been generally declining for about 10 years
while CO2 is rising rapidly.
c) Furthermore the period from the end of the last ice age 10,000
years ago  to about 1,000 years ago was warmer than present (indeed
Greenland is so named because it was warmer in Viking times), had LESS
ice in the Arctic and there was notably  LESS CO2 than now.
The UN Climate Committee – the IPCC – is deliberately ignoring or
covering-up these facts which show in official data.
However rather than investigating the accountability of the UN and our
elected representatives the BBC seems to want independent scientists
and the public to be accountable to the UN and governments. See links
below for information and the letter to Ban-Ki moon UN Secretary
General and Tim Yeo MP from 13 world scientists and environmentalists

4. Attempts to prove CO2 effect ‘right’ by challenging an incomplete
version of one solar theory are doubly dishonest because:
a) One theory being inadequate does not prove CO2 has any effect. The
CO2 theory already lies in tatters – refuted by data evidence. No
amount of enraged shooting at others can revive it.
b) The attacks on what the Global Warmers deem as ’solar theory’ are
the product of disgraceful dishonesty which marks the integrity of the
scientific establishment at its lowest level since the Papal
Inquisition.
The main periodical solar activity effect – the largest observed
periodicity present in world temperature data – is the 22 yr cycle
(driven by sun-earth magnetic connectivity). Hence for aboiut half the
time the 11 year cycle of solar activity – of particles, sunspots and
radiation – will move with temperature and half the time move against
it. This is well known to solar and climate scientists. All the
pseudo-scientists have done is essentially choose time spans where the
two move in opposite directions and ignore demonstrated correlations
on longer time spans. Those who do this are either unbelievably
ignorant of their own subject or deliberately deceptive.  BBC web
‘information’ on the matter refuses to publish the truth despite
requests and in this programme avoids interviewing scientists in
Britain or overseas who research in and understand and apply sun-earth
magnetic and particle effects in provably skilled weather and climate
forecasting***. CO2 based climate and seasonal weather forecasts on
the other hand show no skill, have been abysmally incorrect for a
decade and have got worse in the last few years.

5. I challenge – and there are other scientists who can also
challenge –  the ‘Climate Wars’ programme producer to public televised
debate with himself or any scientist they want to put forward.
If they had answers to the many refutations of their theory then the
UN Secretary General or its Climate Committee (the IPCC) or the UK
Parliament Environment Audit committee (chair Tim Yeo MP*) would
respond to letters but they have all failed to answer simple requests
for evidence to support their theory and policies under which they
expect the world to be taxed and go further into food price crisis and
recession. The letter of 14th July from 13 scientists and
environmentalists across the world to Ban-Ki moon  Secretary general
of the UN – http://www.lowefo.com/pdf/Letter_UN_Sec_Gen_Ban_Ki-moon.pdf
- has still not been even acknowledged.

Integrity in science, politics and the BBC would be a good idea.

Piers Corbyn
Astrophysicist WeatherAction long range forecasters

James Hutton :-“The past history of our globe must be explained by what can be seen to be happening now. No powers are to be employed that are not natural to the globe, no action to be admitted except those of which we know the principle.”

Expect the wailing and gnashing of teeth to really gather momentum round about now. The cold is starting to bite. The warmers will see their CO2 disappear into the sinks more swiftly from now on. It’s lifetime in the atmosphere being between 5 to 16 years and 50 to 80 years, according to sink utilized and if it is warm which is stopping about now. In fact one of the best things about CO2 is its lifetime in atmosphere. We will reap the benefits of boosted levels for 50 to 80 years after “fossil” fuels run out.

Luckily we have about 150 years of those “fossil” fuels (more for coal)that are easily recoverable. Enough time for human ingenuity, resilience and tenacity to produce several VIABLE alternatives. If we haven’t weaned ourselves off the teat by then we deserve what we get.

The CO2 level will still only be around 850ppmv when we have burned all the good stuff – compare that with the concentrations in your front room when friends come round to dinner – 2000+ppmv. A crowded office with regulation ventilation – 1000+ppmv. A commercial greenhouse – 1500+ppmv. A nuclear-powered attack submarine – 4,000+ppmv – yes that is 0.04% of the total gasses and is considered a safe level that does not impinge upon intellect or harm bodily function. Quick. Where are the spacesuits?

The “forcing” due to CO2 being over 22ppmv, or 50ppmv according to some, drops off logarithmically above those levels – all the blather about “doubling” is exactly that. Blather. If CO2 could somehow quadruple from current levels we would see no added temperature effect above that which has already occurred.

The other, main, misrepresentation of CO2 is that it is a “well mixed” component of the atmosphere. I remember an engineer telling me, when CO2 was first made out to be the bad guy, “it is by far the heaviest gas and hugs the ground which is lucky for the vegetation and plankton of this world” which fits with its specific gravity of 1.5+.

Another crafted lie about the most basic component of life itself; Increases in CO2 put pressure on the oceans and their “acidity” levels. Not. The oceans are alkaline and likely to stay that way even if the CO2 content rises from the current 50 times atmospheric to 300 times which has been seen before and failed to kill sea borne life.

Photosynthesis has a cumulative cooling effect and the planet’s biomass increase due to CO2 rising above “dangerous” levels in the last 100 years has lead to (latest figures) a 7% increase in measurable foliage worldwide. Subsequent increases in agricultural yield are a given.

The laughable twisting of the life giving gas into some sort of polluting killer is where the whole charade falls down.

We have much bigger fish to fry but they are difficult for the elite to monetize through taxation etc, – hence CO2, the perfect target.

As one carbon based life-form to another (please excuse my CO2 exhalation as I speak) “Live long and prosper.”

Northern Ireland Environment Minister, Sammy Wilson :- “Reasoned debate must replace the scaremongering of the green climate alarmists…….hysterical psuedo-religion”. Recently Mr Wilson said he refused to “blindly accept” the need to make significant changes to the economy to stop climate change. He said, “The tactic used by the “green gang” is to label anyone who dares disagree with their view of climate change as some kind of nutcase who denies scientific fact,”. “Reasoned debate must replace the scaremongering of the green climate alarmists.” And lo, the prophecy is fulfilled; John Woods of Friends of the Earth said Mr Wilson was “like a cigarette salesman denying that smoking causes cancer”. Right now Northern Ireland, via Mr Wilson could become the centre of world media attention. If they could only expose this stuff they could end up with substancially greater rewards than just blindly following faux science and paying handsomely for the privilege. The savings would be huge. To lives and economies. Worthwhile? You decide. By demanding a debate you could show the world how a charlatan can accrue 100 million dollars in just 8 years using fear, uncertainty and doubt whilst not practising what he preacheth. Al Gore can only continue to cash in on carbon while the situation is anything but “settled science” because the lack of debate is over a complete unknown and there is no “knock-out punch” on either side at this moment. This wouldn’t matter if his, and his friends’ influence with government had not pushed people to the brink of starvation, nations to the edge of bankruptcy and science to the margins of comedy.The tiny, tiny amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere feed the world. It is a fundamental part of the carbon cycle for which we carbon based life-forms are surely grateful. The incidental fact that it is produced whenever we, as animal inhabitants of this world attempt to create comfort is dwarfed by the focus of commerce, through the prism of politics, to manipulate economies (and maybe create one single economy in the process), stunt growth and subjugate humanity. All the loudest voices depend upon climate change, in the form of global warming for a living or to make their fortunes or to control assets. The dumbest just keep their mouths shut and accept the cheques. The smart ones are investing heavily in renewables that, co-incidentally, are as far away from being efficient enough to pay for themselves – ever – as the same length of time we can continue our use of coal and oil at the current rate before we get a little tight with it. During this period we will double CO2 “they” say. This will raise the mythical temperature of the mean by 2.0C “they” say. This figure would still be 1/2 the amount we put into a greenhouse to promote growth and 1/4 of the amount that exists in your average living room with 4 people exhaling. “They” say. In 100 years if we have not weaned ourselves from the teat of organic fuel we deserve to move back into the caves. Problem being. There has not been a debate. A nice long one with security guards and judges.  

Arthur Lee :-
“They’re locking them up today, they’re throwing away the key. I wonder who it’ll be tomorrow? You or me?”

This lunatic has got to be stopped:
www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jun/23/fossilfuels.climatechange
His madness has infected, and infested, nearly every political party on Earth. His dogma is overshadowing the developed world and aims at keeping everyone else nose down in the dirt where, in his bigoted opinion, they belong. The political institution he represents (NASA) was created to engender progress, yet now he is allowed to spout dogmatic revisionism. How did a vicious Luddite such as this slither into a position of power in a science based entity? How does his every venomous word get trumpeted from the heights of the main stream media whilst stifling sensible prognostication from visionaries like Reid Bryson (RIP), whose death raised little noise yet is probably being smiled about by this creeping messianic invertebrate who was quoted as saying “Some of this noise won’t stop until some of these scientists are dead” …..??? He got part of his sick little “wish” and the world is a poorer place today.

This Goron is the sole reason anyone is worried about CO2. He has been harping on about it for 20 years…. yet:
www.co2science.org/articles/V11/N25/C2.php

Well, Reid Bryson was a climate scientist’s climate scientist. In 1948, he became the founding chairman of the Department of Meteorology, he once said “You can go outside and spit and have the same effect as doubling carbon dioxide” and he actually saved lives through his science.

Hansen, on the other hand, has failed to save his own skin, or reputation, after the hockey stick fiasco and his failure to apologize points him out as a totally political creature. And! Everyone keeps quoting him as “…the world’s leading climate scientist…” HE IS AN ACCOUNTANT (well ok, mathematician – although he can’t get his basic arithmetic into any sort of coherent shape)
This rubbish is why real(yeah, like really real)climate dot org is a poisonous nest of vipers that lies about anything contrary to the common hymn book. Run by the hounds of hansen, guardian of the data. Funny how the satellite data, from UAH and RSS both, are consistently even and consistently well below the “rising” figures from NASA and Hadley Met/CRU. He who pays the piper….

Get this hansen:

brneurosci.org/co2.html

“CO2 is more evenly distributed than water, so if CO2 caused warming it would have a proportionately greater effect in areas where there is little water vapor (such as deserts and in very cold regions), while in areas with a lot of water, the effect of CO2 may be insignificant compared to the effect of water vapour.”

“Skepticism is warranted when considering computer-generated projections of global warming that cannot even predict existing observations.”

So here is one of my main questions, asked before and never answered:
The world’s largest desert, Antarctica, has the lowest level of water vapour on the planet, bar none. If warming were caused by CO2 surely we would have a large temperature anomaly right there? Continuously?

And this:

wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/warming-on-11-year-hiatus/
(note how they refuse to use the giss data – and why)

Then get lost.

Actually, if he were to get these people into a courtroom a wish of my own would be granted. Get the lawyers in and let’s get to the bottom of this barrel of bull5hit. Before someone gets hurt.

David Hume :-
“Truth springs from argument amongst friends.”
None of us, whether we work for the IPCC, are climate scientists or are lay, have the foggiest idea how much of the recent “tiny, tiny” warming is man made. No one who creates, sustains and protects the “models” that predict future climate can, or will, say for “certain” because the simple reason is that there are nowhere near enough observations to draw conclusions from that most important of natural climate phenomena, clouds. The very clouds that are both a result and the main cause of the much maligned greenhouse effect that stops our planet from being a permanent ball of extremely cold ice and rock. We have very little in the way of recorded observations and records of the water vapor in the atmosphere to form an opinion, let alone a theory, as to the forcings caused by, and indeed resulting from, the water of life itself that co-mingles with CO2, the life giving gas, that we all inhale and breath out every minute of every day. Every plant does the same. One of the unspoken facts about “carbon offsetting” through the provision of trees, woods and forests is that, inconveniently, a growing tree will push 200 times as much water into the air as CO2. Couple this with the, at least, 100 times greater forcing that water vapor has on tropospheric warmth than carbon dioxide and what do you get? Answers, on a postcard please, to UN IPCC, somewhere exotic (preferably warm already) – you know, the usual costly air trip away at taxpayer expense to then berate said taxpayer for breathing out, earning a living, consuming product, watching tv or anything else that can be credited carbonwise.
Back to the clouds.

A new paper (March 31st, 2008) (by De-Zheng Sun and Tao Zhang of the Cooperative Institute for Environmental Studies/University of Colorado &NOAA/Earth System Research Laboratory, Boulder, Colorado, USA and Yongqiang Yu of LASG, Institute of Atmospheric Physics, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing, China) shows us the way:
“…underestimating the negative feedback from cloud albedo and overestimating the positive feedback from the greenhouse effect of water vapor over the tropical Pacific during ENSO is a prevalent problem of climate models”
being just one of many gems contained in a paper whose abstract includes:
“…the feedbacks of water vapor and clouds—the cloud albedo feedback in particular—depend on the mean intensity of the hydrological cycle. We have also examined whether the variations among models of the feedback from cloud albedo (water vapor) in the ENSO variability are correlated with the variations among models of the feedback from cloud albedo (water vapor) in global warming. While we find a weak positive correlation between the variations among models in the feedback of water vapor during ENSO and the variations among models in the water vapor feedback during global warming, we find no significant correlation between the variations among models in the cloud albedo feedback during ENSO and the variations among models in the cloud albedo feedback during global warming.”
Paper here:
www.cdc.noaa.gov/people/dezheng.sun/dspapers/Sun-Yu-Zhang-JC-revised.pdf
Conclusions studiously ignored by mainstream scientists – again.
Does it take a vigneron – Erl Happ – to validate Dr Richard Lindzen’s “iris effect” and incorporate it into a Tropical Lower Troposphere cloud theory that puts climate scientists, not to mention NASA, NOAA and the IPCC, to shame? Check out the discussion here:
www.climateaudit.org/?p=3052#comment-244302
It is a somewhat heated argument

Some exceptions to the idiocy:
www.weatherquestions.com/Roy-Spencer-on-global-warming.htm#research-update
www.terradaily.com/reports/Widespread_Twilight_Zone_Detected_Around_Clouds_999.html

Climate scientists – and Solar physicists – should get out more. There is nothing new under the sun my arse. We will be glad of some cloud cover these coming decades.